Mr. Lindley's Interpretation of the Logos revifed.-Sir John Falftoff. 513 MR. URBAN, F your correfpondent M. N. in your valuable Repofitory for the month of October, had done himfelf the juftice to examine what Mr. Lindsey had advanced in his late Differtation on the Logos, or Word, in the beginning of St. John's Gospel, to prove that the apostle intended thereby to fignify the Divine Wifdom and Power by which all things were created, and which afterwards was communicated to, and refided in, Jefus, he would have found little difficulty in reconciling the apoftle's language. And if he will take the trouble to confult Dr. Lardner, and also another valuable work revifed by Dr. Lardner, viz. Gardale's True Doctrine of the New Tefiament concerning Jefus Chrift, he will fee the fubject still more fully difcuffed. But why thould your worthy Correfpondent thew himfelf fo much alarmed at the confequences of the doctrine maintained by thefe and many other writers turning out to be the real fentiment of Chrift and his Apoftles? Is it any thing new and unusual to find errors of very long ftanding, in points that feem very important, grafted upon the Bible? Saint-worthip lays claim to very early antiquity, having been practifed by Chriftians little short of fourteen hundred years, and continues to this day the received eftablished doctrine of Spain, France, Italy, a large part of Germany, and throughout the Greek Church in Europe and Afia, to name no more. But we must not for this cry out with M. N. "Woe to thefe nations for "having lived fo many ages in the wilful "practice of the damning fin of Idolatry!" We ought rather to pity them, and do all that we can to free them from fuch deplorable error, by thewing them that it is condemned by their facred writings, from which alone they can learn the religion of Jefus. And we ought always to refrain from calling any of thofe fpeculative mistakes, into which mortals are liable to fall, a damning fin. For this is very far from being the Idolatry which the Scripture mentions as excluding its votaries from the Kingdom of Heaven. M. N. will perceive on enquiry, that the doctrine that startles him fo much is more generally received than he imagines. If he steps into any of the meeting-hottes in town or country, of the Rational Diffenters as they are called, he will learn that they no more think of praying to Chrift than to the Virgin Mary. And if he afks any of his acquaintance whether he ever makes any fuch prayers in private, he will be fatisfied that This kind of prayer among Proteftants is rarely to be met with but in printed books and pre-compofed public forms of devotion, which might cafily be rectified and changed, upon a general conviction that there was any thing wrong and unfcriptural in them in this or in any other refpect. But I will not engrofs any more of your Magazine at prefent. Sir, your humble servant, X. Y. GENT. Mag. November, 1780. MR. URBAN, TH HE Correfpondent, p.460. who fent you the copies of Mr. Anftis's letters relative to the MS. Collections of W. of Worcester, does not feem to know that one of the principal performances of this writer was lately printed at Cambridge, by a gentleman of that uni verlity, from the original MS. in Archbishop Parker's library at Benet College. As the impreffion was hot large, the book, I believe, is in few hands. Give me leave therefore to mention fome few particulars relative to the author and this work of his. William, though he is filed of Worcester, was yet a native of Bristol, where he flourished during the reign of Henry VI. Mr. Gough, in his British Topography, ftiles him the " Pourfuivant, Executor, and Biographer, of Secretary, Sir John Falftoff, a perfon of learning and curiofity, who has written Itinerarium five Liber memorabilium in Viaggio de Bristol ufque ad Mortem Sanéti Michaelis in Anno. 1478." This feems to have been one of the earliest topographical defcriptions of this ifland; but a confiderable part of the book is taken up with a defeription of the author's native city, Bristol, in which he has made honourable mention of the celebrated merchant, William Canning, and the thips which he employed there in commerce; but of that extraordi nary genius, Thomas Kowley, whom Canning is faid to have patronifed, and of whom we have lately heard fo much, William is totally filent. Yet it is difficult to conceive that this celebrated fcholar, poet, antiquary, and traveller, fhould have been unknown to William, or, if known, fhould have been paffed over unnoticed by him. This argu ment against Rowley's non-existence, though certainly not decifive, yet gives fome weight to thofe others which have been lately urged against it. But to return to William, who of his own patron Sir John Falftoffe, incidentally mentions fome particulars in this his Itinerary; amongst others we are told, that when he married Lady Milcent, daugh ter of Lord Robert Tibetol, and relict of Sig pounds a year, as pin-money, upon her, for Stephen Scrope, he fettled one hundred fo I think may be interpreted the following paffage: Obligavit fe in mille libris ut Domina M leent quolibet anno, durante vita ejus, babes ret ad ejus cameram centum l'bras. This was day. If any of your correfpondents can tell a pretty handfome allowance at that time of us where the Acta diurna Jobannis Falstoffe, by this author, lye hid, it will, I am perfuaded, be an acceptable piece of intelligence to many of your readers.-Iu Dr. Birch's MSS. is a receipt, figned " W: Oldys," for 25 thillings, for the article of FASTOLF in the General Dictionary. HISTORICUS. poffeffed, is well known to have been a moft tender and affectionate parent. The following letters written, during his confinement, to his daughter Elizabeth, will not diminish the luftre of his character in this refpect. They are faithfully tranfcribed from the originals in his majefty's own hand, and, if you think fit to publish them, are much at your fervice. Yours, &c. PHILO-STEWART. Hampton-Court, 20 Oct. 1647. DEARE DAUGHTER, THIS is to affeure you, that it is not through forgetfulness, that I have not all this tyme fent for you; the refons of which, when you thall come, fhall be tould you by your brother James, this evening: and fo God bless you. Your loving father, CHARLES R. Kifs your brother Harry and my Lady Northumberland from me. Hampton-Court, 27 Oct. 1647. DEARE DAUGHTER, THIS is to affeure you, that it is not through forgetfullness, or any want of kyndenes, that I have not, all this tyme, fent for you, but for fach reafons, as is fitter for you to imagen (which you may easily doe) then me to wryte: but now I hope to fee you, upon Fryday on Saterday next, as your brother James can more particularly icll you; to whom referring you, I reft Your loving father, CHARLES R. Newport, 14 08. 1648. DEARE DAUGHTER, Ir is not want of affection that makes me write fo feldome to you, but want of matter fuch as I could withe; and indeed I am loathe to write to thofe I love when I am out of humore (as I have beene thefe dayes By paft), leaft my letters fhould troble thofe I defyre to pleafe but having this oportunety I would not loofe it; though, at this zyme, I have nothing to fay, but God bless you: fo I reft Your loving father, CHARLES R. Give your brother my bleffing with a kiffe; and comend mee kyndly to my Lady Northumberland by the fame token. fimplicity of it, and confequently to reprefent his head. The reverie gives Apollo, as it is thought, fitting upon a Tripod. The Saleucide pretending to be derived from him." See Mr. Wife, ad Numm. Bodl. p. 110. The Epifcopal Seal, engraved in the fame plate, never was the property of any Engib, Irish, or Manks prelate, but the owner mufk be fought for, either amongst the Scots, or in foreign countries. This is faid upon the folJowing ground, viz. that there was never any bishop of the name of Chrißopher in the fees above-mentioned, except Chriflopher Bainbridge, and his arms were totally different from thofe on this feal. So that, in fact, the feal neither relates to the fee of Rochester; nor that of Raphoe in Ireland. I am, Sir, your humble fervant, T, Row. MR. URBAN, A BOUT the beginning of June was erected in the church of St. Jago de la Vega, in Jamaica, a most magnificent cenotaph of marble highly executed by the celebrated artist Mr. Wilton, of the royal late worthy and much refpected governor academy of London, to the memory of the of that ifland Sir Bafil Keith, kot. It confitts of a rich ornamental architectoral niche between two flated ftatuary pillafters, with enriched frize pediment and cornith 3 within the niche, which is of the finest dove-coloured marble, is an emblematical figure of immortality founding a trumpet, and holding a wreath over an urn of white marble, upon which the family arms are emboffed. Beneath the urn are the emiblems of Juftice, Commerce, and Government. The height of the pediment is nearly 15 feet, and the ornamental parts being moftly executed in alto relievo, produce a fine effect under the trophies is fixed a plate of black marble, upon which is the following infcription in letters of gold: Sacred to the memory of Sir BASIL KEITH, Knight, Governor of Jamaica, Who departed this life on the 15th day of June, 177 In the duties of his office he was affiduous; Wife and impartial in the adminiftration of juftice A friend to mankind, and a father to the people over whom he prefided. This monument was erected by the Affembly, to tranfmit to pofterity the grati tude of the people of this ifland, for the happiness they enjoyed under his mild and upright government." * These were presented to Sir Hans Sloane, Aug. 15, 1733, with this letter: “Sir, As I am in fome measure a stranger to the true value of the inclofed letters, therefore I leave it entirely to your own honour; but at the same time do affure you these letters have been in no other hands or family but the old Earl of Leicester's, till they came to mine; and I give it on my honour they have never been shown to any perfon but yourfelfe, it being my opinion that no gentleman but what has your tafte, is deferving of them. I am, Sir, your moft humble fervant, P. DiccoNSON.-I have fent you a medall of the fame King and his queen which if you form of any value, fhall goe with the letters." Queries, Anecdates of the Riots,—Remarks on Pennant's Tour, &c. 515 MR. URBAN, If any of your ingenious correfpondents can refolve the following queries, their anfwers will much oblige Yours, &c. ANTIQUARIUS. Is the year or place of Edgar Etheling's death noticed by any, and which, of our old hiftorians? Does any of our antient writers (excepting Chaucer and Gervafe of Tilbery) make mention of Fairies? Is any book concerning thefe imaginary beings known to have exided before Shakspeare and Drayton wrote ? Was there any engagement between Montrofe and the Covenanters at a place called Cond? If yes, where is any account of the battle to be met with? A. MR. URBAN, N page 495 of your volume for the laft year, an initance of hafte and inaccuracy is produced against the ingenious Mr. Penpant in his four in Wales, to which he will, no doubt, attend in any future edition. With this view the following animadverfions are now communicated: In page 35, 1. 6, for "hoc" we thould read " nes; and in 1.9, for "Prece" read "pura;" as the original infcription warrants. In p. 56, 57, occur fuch mistakes as could not furely have been committed, had the author recollected the 108th article in vol, XLIX of the Philofophical Tranfactions; in which the learned Profeffor Ward gives an accurate account of the two large pieces of Lead with Roman inferiptions upon them, defcribed in 17343 thefe pages; from whence it appears, that in p. 56, 1. 24, we should read and in p. 57, 1, 2, the year 81;" and 1.8," AVG. GER. DE." In p. 100, l. 17, 18, 19, the paffage, which is at prefent rangely erroneous, might ftand thus : "The living [of Hawarden] is in the gift of the lord, who nominates; and the bithop of Chefter prefents. The rector has a peculiar exempt jurifdiction; grants licences, &c." In p. III, notice is taken of the Hypocauft at Chetter. In 1740 one was difcovered at Lincoln, of which there is an exa draught and defeription in the first volume, of the Prints published by the Antiquary Society. The fculpture mentioned in p. 113 is engraved and more accurately defcribed in Horley's Britannia Romana, Cheshire iv;" as is the beautiful altar mentioned in p. 114, 115," Cheshire ii." The ftatue with a Phrygian bonnet, deferibed in p. 116, is in Horley, "Chefhire v ;" and Profeffor Ward, in the improved copy of this work in the British Mufepra, has added in the mare gin; This figure is ill drawn." In p. 193 we are told that a Bell was a common prize a little golden bell was the re ward of victory in 1607 at the races nearYork; whence came the proverb, for fuccefs of any kind, to bear the bell." In Ray's "Collection of English Proverbs" we find. to bear away the bell," which feems to be the more genuine reading. The 18th Plate does not correfpond with the defeription in P. 224, 225, being wrongly numbered: No V on the Plate fhould be N° II; as N° IV thould be N° II; and No II should be N⚫ IV; and No Ifhould be No V. In p. 268, 1. ult. we should for impropriation" read appropriation; as in p. 316, 1. 8, 11, for "monks" we fhould fubft tute "frers;" and in p. 342, 1. antep. for Carnot" read "Chartres;" and in p. 454, 1. 15, for "1684" read "1284." Is there not fome. miflake in the first paragraph of this laft Page? It may not perhaps be improper to advife a further inquiry about it. Oct. 18, 17Sa. MR. URBAN, You ANTIQUARIUS OUR correfpondent Crito (p, 365.) has treated the plan 1 communicated to you of joining Ireland and Scotland as chi menical, but w thout alledging any reafons for it. I should be glad to know upon what ground he calls it chimerical; whether he has really furveyed the narrow part of the Irish channel between Port Patric and Donaghadee, and is thoroughly acquainted with the foundings of the channel there, &c.; be As my lords the bishops did not know lately that any new Popish school had been opened, this may convey ufeful information to them, efpecially as they are now, through the Loudon clergy, inquiring into the number of Roman Catholics; from the known zeal and indefatigable attention which thote gentlemen fhew to the religion and morals of their parishioners, there can be no doubt but that their lordships will have very accurate returns. caufe, 516 Junction of Ireland and Scotland confidered. Academical Degrees,&c. caufe, if I was at liberty to mention names, I could tell him of men of acknowledged judgement in fuch matters, who have given it as their opinion that the fcheme was perfectly practicable. I am to circumstanced at prefent, that I cannot poffibly take a journey to the very fpot, and make an accurate furvey of it, as I had fully intended; otherwife 1 fhould not defpair of being able to make the practicability of it appear. I hould therefore be glad fome abler man would do it. A certain popular Baronet in the North, no lefs eminent for his public than his private virtues, or fome of his friends, are fully equal to this talk, if they can at all spare time. If they confidered a union between Great Britain and Ireland as beneficial to the whole empire, and every part of it, I do not doubt but they would demonftrate the practicability of making the to iflands one, and do their endeavours towards accomplishing the work, as a likely means of bringing about fuch union. Crito fays the plan is akin to Mr. Brindley's, of eftablishing a floating bridge there. I have not been able to procure a fight of the new Biographia, in which Brindley's life is given. But if he really thought fuch a bridge might be constructed, the deference I have for fo great a genius would induce me to rely upon h's judgement; and nothing but a want of fuccefs in the attempt would convince me that it was not feasible. Many of the great works done by Mr. B. were conAidered as chimerical,' before he actually thewed their practicability by really execu ting them. Surely this ought to make one cautious of charging fuch a man with forming chimerical plans. As I am unfortunately prevented from furveying the place myfelf, I with fome perfon, who lives nearer it, would fend you a draught of that part of the Irish channel, giving us the depth of it, and the fituation of the country a few miles on each fide of it, with the diftance between the Bay of Strangford and Carrickfergus, and alfo between Glenluce Bay and Lock Ryan. Though there is very little inclination in the Powers but are to pay attention to works of public utility, it may nevertheless be of fome advantage to communicate to the world plans of foch works, as a more virtuous age hereafter may avail themfelves of fuch difinterefted information. I know nothing that would fo much redound to the reai glory of prince's reign as the encouraging projects of this nature, and employing his fubjects in the execution of fuck as merit attention. I hope Crito will confider this matter more deliberately, and reflect what napional advantages would arise from a juncon of the two iflands, and at least let us know the grounds of his opinion when he MR. URBAN, IN Oct. 20, 1780. N your very useful and entertaining Mifcellanies lately you have given fome account of degrees in the two universities; but, I think, none of your correfpondents have noticed a particular method of taking a ba chelor of divinity's degree, which is now not uncommon at Cambridge. By a ftatute of Elizabeth, if a perion twenty-four years old, or upwards, be admitted of any college, and keep his name on the boards ten years without any refidence, he may then (by doing the requifite exercife) tako the degree of B. D. This enables fuch a one to hold twợ livings without a chaplainthip; but whether it gives him a title to vote in the fenate for members of parliament, &c. I cannot tell. I fhould be much obliged to any of your correfpondents to inform me, whether it confers that privilege or not; and alfo, whether there is any iimilar ftatute in the univerfity of Oxford. MR. URBAN, I am, &c. S. N. Westminster Abbey, at a jubilee kept by the members of that collegiate church, is an extract from its charter of foundation. Being ignorant whether this charter and the itatutes of this learned body are in print, and may be purchafed, I take this method of ap plying for information: or, if they fhould be unpublished, I shall be much obliged to any of your correfpondents who will let me know where a copy of them may be perufed, My motive for this enquiry is, that I with to have an opportunity of comparing the foundation and the rules of an inftitution cftablished by Queen Elizabeth, who was really a proteftant, with the charters and the ftatures of the deans and chapters erected by her father Henry VIII; who, though he renounced all fubiection to the authority of the Pope, was a bigot to the papistical doctrines. S. W. The paffage in the Biographia (vol. II. p. 604.) is this: "He had always a favourite #heme of joining the two iflands from Port Patrick to Donnaghdee, by a floating road and cnal, which he was confident he could execute in fuch a manner as to ftand the most “violent attacks of the waves." EDITÇA. Remarks on Hayley's Epiftle to a Painter.-The Speculator. 517 While we are delighted with the encreafing fplendor of these annual enter44 tainments, it is but just to remember that "we are indebted to the Society of Arts "and Sciences for our first public exhibi tions of paintings. The different focieties " of artifts foon followed fo excellent an ex"ample (Note 40.)." You perceive, Sir, that it is here called The Society of Ats and Sciences, whereas the proper title of that body is, "The Society for the Encouragement of "Arts, Manufactures, and Commerce." Science feems peculiarly to belong to the Royal Society. I thould have been inclined to confider this dip as an error of the prefs, had it not been repeated; for Note 42 fays, *The Society of Arts and Sciences have con4 fined their premiums to fubjects taken from the Britith annals." I know that the unbred part of the nation fay the Society of Arts and Sciences, and I alfo know that they fay the Fondling Hospital, instead of the Foundling Hofpital, but it is only the unbred who thus exprefs themselves; we never hear them from the lips of a gentleman. Inattention, therefore, can alone be pleaded for the above inaccuracy; as it feems impoffible, that fo fenfible a writer, with fo manifeft a knowledge of men and things, thould not know better. With permiffion, Sir, I will here make a fecond remark, though of a different nature from the first. Our Author, after informning us (Note 40.) that we are indebted to this fociety for our first public exhibitions of paintings, as in truth we are, adds, "The different focieties of artifts foon followed "fo excellent an example." This fentence, doubtlefs, conveys an idea of the existence, at least, if not of the flourishing state of the focieties hinted at, as "following so excel lent an example," whereas the fact is quite otherwife; for they are a new creation, produced, as it were, from that fociety which fo warmly encouraged arts and artiits; that fociety which first gave liberal premiums in reward to men of genius, and which, by the exhibitions they formed, first, in this nation, brought merit forth to public view. But, Men love Dominion! nay, Mr. Locke fays, that "Children love Domi"nion." This love of dominion led our artifts to confider themfelves in fome meafure as fhackled or dependent on the fociety; which they by no means relithed. No: "We will have an exhibition of our own." Accordingly they formed themfelves into a body, called The Society of the Artifts of "Great Britain, incorporated by Royal "Charter;" which charter they obtained. The artifts now confidered themselves as happy; but, alas! this happinefs was of fhort duration! A love of dominion broke-forth again they could not, if I am rightly informed, accor! in the appointment and arrangeing of the ch base of their fociety; ahey couldnot all be planted. This clith tion produced the idea of a Royal Academy: which by royal favour was pursued, and by royal favour compleated. THE SPECULATOR,^ N° II. Pudore & liberalitate liberos Retinere fatius effe credo, quam metu. TER. "I think it better to govern Children by "giving them a Senfe of Shame, and "by gentle Treatment, than by Fear." OUR Correfpondent A. B. with no less feverity than justice, has expofed the barbarity and indelicacy of fchool punishments; but as he has faid nothing of the inefficacy of them, I intend to make that the fubject of my inquiry in the prefent paper. You It is an obfervation I have often made, that thofe boys, whofe preceptors have fo frequently attempted to sharpen their memories with the rod, have generally made no very fplendid figure in the fphere of letters: and whatever those "birchen-sceptred monarchs” may fay, I am fully convinced learning can never be Hogged into a lad, who has naturally no tale for it; but, on the contrary, as Rollin oblerves, "they (fpeaking of punish "ments) give an incurable averfion to the "things we fhould endeavour to make them "love.--They do not change the humour, "nor work any reformation in the difpofi tion-They often ftupify the mind, and "harden it in evil." Ifocrates, in his oration to Demonicus, fays, 'Epin madis ion path; that is, If you have a love for learning, you will learn much; fo if you have an averiion to it, you will learn little. For it is not fo much by a fuperiority of parts, as by a voluntary unwearied application to, and natural love of, books, that one boy excels another in his ftudies. I do not mean, however, totally to condemn the usa of the rod, which must ever be thought neceffary in the lower claffes, where there is no idea of the great value of time, But if boys at the age of 14 or 15 thew no taste for letters; if they never look into a book but through fear and compulfion; then, I fay, the rod will be often injurious always ineffectual. Yet this is too frequently the cafe. The parent, confiding in the precep tor, leaves the management and education of his fon entirely to him, of whofe abilities he entertains the highest opinion, and flatters himfelt his fon is advancing with ail poffible celerity to the fummit of wisdom. But the lad takes no delight, in his ftudies, and after fuffering innumerable unpitied lathes leaves fchool, refolving never more to look into a Latin author; and, perfevering in his refolution, in a few years is unable to conflrue a fentence in Corderius, though perhaps at the time he left fchool he was reading Virger Horace. Every parent who capable moula era ne his child each time he comes here: would then difcovor whith an op todes in a propel main. 95 LE, e found that at the age |